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Wise Money Tools with Dan Thompson


Nov 21, 2019

Well! Hi everyone, this is Dan Thompson wise money tools. Glad you could join me on this wise money tools video. So I got a quick question for you. Are you capable of picking your own mutual funds? Now that might sound kind of silly, but I started as a financial advisor back in 1986. Yep, old guy, little gray here. Now, if you work for a big firm, what happens on a fairly regular basis is you get these guys coming into the office. They're called wholesalers. And it happens a few times a month. A wholesaler is basically the sales force of a mutual fund company. And what they do is they come in and they tout their mutual funds tell you how wonderful they are. They take you to lunch, give you a pin, a cup, some sort of trinket and off they go. It's kind of taken for granted if a wholesaler shows up that management wants you to sell their stuff.


Now this can be a conflict of interest is certain extent because oftentimes a mutual fund company will either pay a fee or give a kickback to the brokerage firm to push their funds. Now, they do this and it's all legal. But what they do is they call it a due diligence reimbursement. See, the brokerage firm has to pay an employee of sorts to analyze the fund group. And so the fund group will pay them for that due diligence. Well, there were a few wholesalers that came in while I was in my first year, and their stories were amazing. I felt like I couldn't go wrong selling their funds. I remember one wholesaler coming in. I guess this was about 3 or 4 years after I'd been in the business is around 1990. And he had this big pitch for their China fund. And that in China was going crazy at the time and their fund was up 45% for the year. And he said to all of us, he said, Now this is just the beginning. China's here to stay.


This is where you want to put your money. I know about 3 months later, he showed up to the office. And he was touting their blue chip large-cap fund. And I remember asking him, I said, Well, last time you're here, you're talking about the China fund. How's it doing? Well, luckily, I had never sold any of it, because he was a bit uneasy. And he sheepishly admitted that it was down 90% and they closed it, closed it and I just felt like I dodged a bullet. Had I simply follow the wholesalers push, my clients would have been toast. Sadly, way too many brokers in my office had sold their clients to China fund. So that brings me to the point of this video. What happens to these funds when they close? Where does the money go? See a mutual fund company won't keep their dogs very long.


Because they don't want them on their books. There's a stat that indicates that there are over 32,000 mutual funds that have closed, okay? Now they may have closed due to lack of interest, they may have close to bad management, they may have close to performance, or they just didn't have enough sizzle to keep them exciting. As with the China fund, there was a lot of sizzle for the sell. But as soon as the sizzle was drowned out, most of the assets were lost and the fun closed. Now they don't have to put it on the books, but there's still a little bit of money in there. So what happens to that money? Well, what they do is they typically roll what's left of your assets into another fund. Then they send you this letter that says now you're the proud owner of their new high flyer fund, right?


Well, there are lots of reasons and excuses to make you feel all warm and fuzzy and that they did the right thing. But the reality is what they did is buried their dogs. So suppose there are two funds. One has a 10% return each year for the last three years. The other one has like a 2% return and then a negative 5% the last year. And you own the one that lost money over the last three years, what the mutual fund company can do is closed that dog. Keep saying dog, I love dogs by the way, and they roll those funds into the good one and hide the horrible returns of the other one. Now, here's where it gets a bit deceiving. So again, they give you a nice letter, explain the move, and now you're the proud owner of this new fund. But remember, you own that horrible fund for 3 years previously, right?


However, now your money is rolled into the new fund. And at the end of the year, you get a statement that shows the last 3 years return as if you'd been in that fund. Well guess what? Somehow all the bad returns are wiped out gone. Your statement shows you've done 10% for the last 3 years, even though your actual account value shows dramatically otherwise. Now, this happened about 32,000 times in the last number of years, maybe not all of them for horrible returns. But still the history is wiped clean. And you're now part of the history of the new fund that you're that they rolled you into, even though you did not experience that history. I guess I point this out, because what did the broker that sold you the fund, know that You didn't know? Oftentimes, not much more than you could have read for yourself.


In other words, brokers are subject to being sold a bill of goods by these wholesalers, just like they then turn around and sell you a bill of goods. With the research you can do on mutual funds these days in about five minutes. There really is no good reason to pay And to buy a mutual fund from a broker. Did you know that at the end of 2014, there were over 79,000 mutual funds worldwide 79,000 just in the United States over 9600. Korea alone has 11,000. And India is pushing to over 10,000. Now, here's what's really interesting though, do you know how many stocks there are in the United States? Well, in 1996, the US stock market peaked with issues at 7322. At the end of 2018, we had just over 3600. So those numbers have been cut almost in half. And now think about this.


There are over twice as many mutual funds in the United States as there are stocks in the United States. And that's the only thing that mutual funds can buy. Okay, so back to my point of this video. Do you really think a broker can pick a mutual fund better than you see brokers and financial advisors pretty much hone into one or two mutual fund families. Maybe they like him because of the wholesaler. Maybe the returns for a particular fund has been good for the last few years. Or maybe it's the payback that if the firm gets I don't know, what am I mean by payback? Remember, I was telling you about the cost kickback for due diligence costs that many firms receive will brokers and advisors get a few perks as well. I remember in my second year of fund company invited me on a due diligence trip.


They flew me to Chicago, picked me up in a limo took me to the Nippon hotel. I think it's called in downtown Chicago where I look right at this huge billboard of Michael Jordan from my room. Then they took me to the finest restaurants. It was just top notch accommodations. And then we had like a two hour meeting. Where they talked about their funds, their fund managers and how they analyze stuff and all that. By the time I left, I was so impressed with the company. They had this great story nice people. And of course, they treated me very well. Well, I got back to my office A few days later, and I did some research. I liked everything about them, except one thing. They had horrible results compared to other funds in their competitive group. So how can I justify selling them? The promise so many brokers justify selling them because of these due diligence trips.


I talked with a few other guys in the office and they basically said. Hey, these guys are going to take care of you. And how do you know that they aren't gonna do better in the future, and you're gonna be fine, just sell them? Well, I couldn't do it. I just couldn't sell fund, because somebody took me on a nice trip. Now this happens several times each year. The courting that goes on behind the scenes is incredible. Now, I think that's curtailed over the years somewhat. It used to be much more you know, aggressive. I mean, some of the trips I've been on to sway me to sell their stuff have been incredible. The problem is you as a consumer, you have no idea if the broker you work with is unbiased. Did their research or if it's a good story, but they are simply paying back the wholesaler for their weekly visits, and for the little trinkets they get. And you're never gonna know that which again, takes me back to my point.


There's no reason in this world that with a bit of research, you have just as good a chance of picking a mutual fund, as well as any financial advisor out there. Not only that, you'll save the fees as well a fee that is completely unnecessary in today's world. Fees can literally eat up 30% or more of your total return, even if it's only 1% a year. I hear that all the time. Well, it's only 1% a year. But if you look at some of the calculations of how that works out over time, it can eat up as much as 30% of your total return just for picking a fund. What I think is a better question is this. Our mutual funds all what they're cracked up to be. I mean, by the time you look at the actual return, the fees, the taxes, the manager of philosophy. You may be able to do much better on your own. Using what we like to do, and that's the Warren Buffett style of investing, you could potentially dwarf the returns on an actively managed fund. And it's not that hard.


It's certainly worth exploring. That's the purpose of these videos to make you, your best financial advisor. The first thing you got to do is build up your capital so you have capital to access when it's a good time to be buying. Having cash or capital markets, correct or even crash is really the secret to Warren Buffett's success. He says, be fearful when others are greedy and greedy when others are fearful. There's a little fear out there right now. And maybe for good reason. We've got a great economy right now, a pro business, White House company profits are up wages are up employment, the lowest and 50 years. So there's good reason to be optimistic. I'd simply say if you aren't invested right now, and you have the ability to save. It may be the best time to build your capital base and keep cash. Buffett is sitting on billions and cash, like 122 billion at the end of last June. He's not investing much right now. Might be a good signal for us as well.


One of the best places to save and build capital is through our banking system. It's safe, it's tax advantaged, it's accessible and ready to be put to work when those opportunities arise. And that's how you can create wealth with Without taking a lot of risk, and certainly without rolling the dice and picking the right mutual fund. Okay, so that's about it for this video. As always, if you have any questions, shoot me to questions at wise money tools.com. I'll answer as quick as I can. Don't forget to subscribe. And if you want to have a strategy session, make sure you click on the time trade link below. Always love to hear your comments as well. So feel free to comment below. Be Your best financial advisor, you're gonna feel more in control, do better with your money and eliminate ends of thousands of dollars in fees during your working life. All right, that's it till next week. Take care.